Hoof Trimming… and other things…


Believe it or not… the visit with my buddy Bill to do the ponies hooves went very well. Bill was surprised, he thought from the way I described Domingo that he was pure evil. And of course, he behaved so nicely for the whole pedicure, I was a little flabbergasted.
Now, Bill is a horseman for his whole life and horses respect him. He just knows how to handle them and how to get them to behave. And he brought along a stallion chain and we used it on both of my little men. It’s a chain like a dog choke chain, but with a hook on each ends. You snap it onto one side of their halter, and then under their chin, and through the other halter hole in the side. Like a dog chain, you can pull that up tighter under his chin where it is sensitive and all the sudden they do pay attention to whom is holding the chain and lead. It’s nicer than a twitch… which is a loop that holds a part of their upper lip and is fairly unpleasant. That is really a sort of last chance sort of thing if you ask me. And Bill. The stallion chain is just to keep his attention and to keep the farrier safe. I was surprised, we did Domingo first and he was not perfect, but he really was pretty resigned to the fact and had his feet all done within about 20 minutes or so.

There were a few moments when the pony thought, I’m not digging this, but with patience and a lot of verbal encouragement, we got through it and he had nice neat trimmed little toes in no time. The one spot where he had a little crack was not that bad and most of it trimmed out nicely. Bill said it would grow out pretty quickly and he didn’t see any inner wall damage or anything. I was relieved.

When he was all done, Domingo got his good boy cookie and he was quite pleased with that.
Cody waited patiently. Though he was not really excited about the whole situation. I have been working with him and playing with his feet, picking, cleaning and just making him more comfortable than the last time. His first trim was a bit of a challenge and ended up with his nose getting twitched by hand, by me! That is some hard stuff let me tell you. So Bill was SUPER pleased that Cody actually got through it all pretty well.
It’s hard to trim little ponies feet. They are low to the ground. I measured Cody today for a harness and I was sort of surprised to find that he is only 38 inches tall! He’s just a little more than a yard tall! haha… So working on their feet requires some tough knees to bend down and trim! And my buddy Bill is over 70 years old! But he’s a tough guy for sure. And boy, do equines listen to him.

I was so glad for Bill to come out and see them. First thing he said that Cody was just looking fantastic. That was so cool. He said his weight looked great for his form, he was sassy, shiny and just a different looking pony than he remembered. And he said his manners were just really good, and he was a good boy… awwww….

Now Domingo? Well, we talked a long time about him. And he watched him and we did some various little tests and just observed him. Bill said, that pony just hasn’t had any real training and all. He’s spirited and just a bit bossy for sure. We watched Domingo and Cody play with each other and they play rough. And we watched Domingo light out after the sheep and just be full of piss and vinegar for the most part. He gave me some advice on how to start teaching him manners, and better behaviors. And he said, it was going to take some time to undo a lot of his undesirable bad behaviors, but that he’d seen many ponies ten times worse. So, that combined with the hoof trim and all, I was feeling a little better about the whole situation.

And then, of course, he had to go and shatter that later that evening. He and Cody were out in the back pasture, grazing away at the far corner, pretty content it seemed to me. We had some friends over, and we were right up near the barn, looking at chickens and talking. When out of the blue comes Domingo and he charged at their little girl, nearly knocked her over and got a hold of her hoodie until I was right in his face and he backed away. I was SO MAD at him… oh my gosh. I was so thankful that she was frightened but not hurt. It just blew my mind that he would do such a thing. Oh my gosh, I was just so angry at him.

And I was mad at myself. I should have never been in there with guests and not having my complete attention on what was going on with the livestock. I felt so dreadful. Thank goodness, they were gracious and their little girl got her composure back and we went on to visit the little coop and all, but as soon as I could, Maggie brought me a lead rope and we put both ponies away in the barn. Of course, Domingo was acting like nothing was wrong.

I called Bill back and we had a very long talk. I was ready to give up right there and then, I will admit. And Bill said he wouldn’t blame me at all, but then he said to me, you know, that pony was probably just trying to get her to run, like he does the sheep and the cats and chickens. To a horse, we’re not really anything different than another animal species. It’s how he plays with Cody, and with the sheep, etc., he goes after the little ones and likes to scatter them. He also said, that he might have learned from my immediate screaming and anger that he had done something very wrong. He said I can not trust him with anyone right now, and maybe not for a while. He really just has no idea of proper behavior and it’s going to be a hard row to hoe. And I’m not sure that I’m going to be able to hoe it. I will admit that. It’s got me a little upset, yet understanding. Bill’s right, Domingo didn’t have his ears back, and he wasn’t frightened or upset, I guess you would say, he was being ornery. It’s our immediate thought to think he was being aggressive and that was my first inclination, but then Bill said, he’s been taught that it’s okay for him to harass little things. Whether it is sheep or cats or children. He told me what I’ve read… people tolerate behaviors in ponies that they would NEVER allow in a horse because they think it’s cute. I have to say, at first I thought it was sort of funny that he would charge after the sheep to scatter them or do it to a group of chickens. They would always get away. And yet, I didn’t think it was charming in ANY way that he would do it to a child, or even me… man…. hard hard lesson today.

I know there are probably some that will say, get rid of him immediately. And yes, I considered that for a long time. And yet part of me says, how? It’s not that easy to just drop a pony off at the humane society. And horse rescues are filled to the max with equines with issues. Sell him? Just pass up and pass on, someone else can deal with him? That’s pretty rude. Auction? Again, another bad bad bad karma decision if you ask me. Put him down? I guess… but that has a hard edge to it as well, because his issues are all people related. He’s had no real training and had to deal with very few rules and regulations.

Well, I’ve got some very heavy thinking to do. Bill’s offered to help and has given me a whole laundry list of things to start working on. And new rules. And since the pony fairy won’t pick him up tonight, we’ll have to start working on these rules to insure safety and tranquility. Cody would be heartbroken if I just up and took him away. And it would just be another notch in Domingo’s unfortunate past. New rules it is.

No more free range when anyone is over. He will be stabled and that is that.

He has to start working on basic training. Lead ropes, backing up, stopping, space issues. No more treats just because. He must earn them. Bill told me how to work him on the long line. A little bit every day, lots of things to keep him occupied and learning what is to be expected. I need to get a little saddle, anything, and start getting him used to doing something. Standing to be groomed. Cross tying. We have to go back to Lesson 1 in the training book. No more dual species pasture time. No more sheep chasing or anything for that matter. More stable time. And time apart from Cody, so that he can learn that he has to behave when Cody gets let out for something, like training or whatever. Even short periods, just so he doesn’t get all freaky when they are apart.

I’m willing to work with Bill, I do feel a little better after our very long conversation. He said he knew I had it in me… and I’m super grateful for his confidence, but I’m not sure I deserve it. He saw how I handled the two today at the trimming, and he could see the advancement in Cody. I’m just going to have to really up my game with him and really crack down on some of these issues now. In the meanwhile, he’s going to be on a very very tight lead and his liberties are going to be greatly limited. He’s on probation in my book and I’m going to need to see some good solid and steady behavior growth or there will be some very hard things to deal with.

I do know that I am serious on this. This is not a little dog that you just can’t trust to not tinkle in the house or bark at the mailman. It’s not a crabby old cat that you can tolerate being ornery. It’s 400 pound farm animal with poor people skills. I hope that folks will see that I am VERY VERY serious that we need to make some serious and fairly good changes fast. It would break my heart to just give up on him so quickly, but yet, I’m not going to tolerate him hurting someone. It’s going to be a tough spring around here! Anyone with any suggestions, books, videos, training methods, ANYTHING, please feel free to share with me. Know I will be digging out my books and searching the web as well. I suppose that I could have just not shared this, but that doesn’t seem right either. Life is not a flat road journey. I love what a reader said…. it’s peaks and valleys. That is so right. It’s rough gravel sometimes and nice warm soft sand at others. This is a pretty rocky patch at the moment for me. A huge learning lesson. And one that I’m sure, I’m not the only one to make and probably not the last one either.

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Hoof Trimming… and other things… — 5 Comments

  1. {{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

    It doesn’t matter what any stranger on the internet thinks you should do! It’s your life, your farm and you are the one thats has to deal or not deal in real life. Trust your gut, give it your very very best try and keep safe. It’s all you can do in the end. You may save him or you may not, but at least he got a real chance with you and that’s all you truly can offer him. It may not work out, or it may work out beautifully. Just make sure you can feel in your heart you did your best so that whatever happens you wont live with guilt.

    It’s your call, don’t worry about what others think! They aren’t living your life!!!!

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    • I really appreciate that. I’m torn up about the situation. It’s not something I’m treating lightly. I wish that i could always make the right decisions, and know just what to do to fix any situation, but no one can. Just have to try as best as you can and hope that you will be guided correctly and wisely. That is my hope!

      -Sherri

  2. I agree with you and Bill that he needs to learn a lot. I can’t remember how old he is, so I’m not sure how many years you are trying to ‘undo.’ I would imagine he can learn acceptable behaviors, how long it takes is a wait and see thing.

    Just be careful, very careful, with him. If you or one of the girls were to get hurt by him it would affect the farm and your family in a HUGE way and that would be a very negative thing for the rest of the animals, as well.

  3. Dang girl, I am sorry. What alittle bugger he is being. He is really testing the waters ins’t he. I bet 1 hr per day for 30 days and he will be a different horse. I do believe any horse can over come anything, he just may not be allowed too much freedom and rein. Some horses just have to be watched closer than others. The story books about horses never mention times like these either, just like farm books forget the real truth. This is real life and a real animal and not a story.
    We had people over once to look at a horse we had for sale and one of our broodmares pawed their little girl right down to the ground as soon as she got close to her. She just struck like lightening and she had Never done anything like that ever. It scacred us to death, I thought for sure she was hurt bad. She was fine as well, lessoned learned for us all that day.
    I sure wish I lived closer to ya I would sure try to help you with him.
    One thing you might comside is to maybe let a trainer or an amish family take him for 30 days. They usually charge about 300.00 to 350.00 for a month and that should include stall and feed care. I know that probably sounds like a lot but when you start adding up halters, leads, fencing and etc, things they tear up. An untrained horse in hard on things and peole. When you look at it like that, it is cheap. Just find someone who trains with trust and repetion and not fear. Good luck and God Bless your heart. You are such a dear lady to try to work with him, but if he is too difficult, he just is. Sometimes animals are above our personnel know how. Don’t feel bad if you can’t, there are other ponies.

    • I remember something a dog trainer told me once. She said, I NEVER trust a dog to do exactly what I want all the time. They never will. Bottom line, they are still an animal and do not think or reason or have the learning/wisdom of a human and it’s foolish to think they do. They are not people. I really have come to understand and ANY animal can have a bad day and you might NEVER know why or whatever… just like people! People can be unpredictable to the max, and so can an animal.

      I like the idea of the off farm training. Bill has called me twice today with ideas and a plan. I think he likes a good challenge. And he knows how much it means to me and doesn’t want to see me hurt or anything. He says we give him 30 days and see how it goes. I agree. We’ll do our best, pull out the stops and see what comes of it. Just like you said… I can give him an hour a day for sure. And the rest of the time, he’s just going to have to learn some better horse manners for sure. One thing Bill said was to pair him up with Cody more and use Cody to “protect” me. IE, get Cody between him and I and make Domingo do what Cody is doing. Like just walking on a lead and behaving. Lead Cody and have Domingo on his other side. Just walk around, stop, start up again, stop, turn, walk, etc. Let Cody teach and correct him when it comes to crowding or whatever. Or have Maggie lead Cody and I with Domingo, so that Domingo just HAS to fall in and play along. Tie up Cody, tie up Domingo. Hopefully, being paired up with him will help Domingo to just accept things a little better, learn the routine, etc.

      Tomorrow, he’s going to learn about grooming. It’s time. I think most equines like to be groomed, it’s got to feel good. We’re going to get him to just stand and accept a little grooming session with the soft nubby round brush. (It’s like a massaging curry comb thing…haha) Cody ADORES it. He gets quite content with a session. Domingo needs to learn that he can enjoy such a thing as well.

      Oh, I do wish you were around too! (gg) I think we would make quite a tag team on this little stinker. He just needs some rules and some teaching…. and of course, time out time whenever I can’t give him 100% of my attention.

      That had to have been so scary with your broodmare! Like I said, you just never nevery know totally what is going on in their heads. Bill said that pony might have never really encountered a little person… he said I should consider putting him on a lead and setting down in a chair near so that he can see me shorter. Might not be bad at first to have a fence between us… hahaah…. and if we have kids visit, make sure he gets a chance to see them and watch them, but safely, in his barn, in a paddock. Help to get him to understand they are people, not chase toys. Just so many things to consider and try and work with him.

      Thanks for your help for sure!!!

      -s